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From: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
To: PostgreSQL Development <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Subject: [HACKERS] Repair plan for inet and cidr types
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As we know, the inet and cidr types are still broken in several ways,
amongst others input and output functions, operators, ordering. I've
collected the bug reports from the last year or so from the archives.
There's apparently a lack of understanding of what exactly are these types
are supposed to do. Therefore, instead of addressing each bug
individually, let me first state what I reconstructed as the specification
of these types, and then add what is currently wrong with it.
* CIDR
The cidr type stores the identity of an IP _network_. A network
specification is of the form 'x.x.x.x/y'. The documentation states that if
y is omitted then it is constructed from the old A, B, C class scheme. So
be it. In a real world network, the bits (y+1)...32 have to be zero, but
the cidr type does not currently enforce this. This has been the source of
bugs in the past, and no doubt the source of some confusion as well. I
propose that cidr _reject_ input of the form '127.0.0.5/16'. If you think
about it, this is the same as int4 rejecting 3.5 as input.
* INET
The inet type stores the identity of an IP _host_. A host specification is
of the form 'x.x.x.x'. Optionally, the inet type also stores the identity
of the network the host is in. E.g., '127.0.0.5/16' means the host
127.0.0.5 in the network 127.0/16.
* Type equivalency
This has also been a source of problems. I propose that cidr and inet are
not made equivalent types at any level. No automatic casting either. A
network and a host are not the same thing. To construct a cidr value from
an inet value, you'd have to use some sort of (to be created) network()
function, e.g., network('127.0.0.5/16') => '127.0/16'. IMO, there is no
reasonable way to construct an inet value from a cidr value.
* Operators
Because the types are equivalent, the operators have also been bunched
together in confusing ways. I propose that ordering operators (>, +, <)
between inet and cidr be eliminated, they do not make sense. The only
useful operation between cidr and inet is the << ("contains") operator.
Ordering withing cidr and inet be defined in terms of their bit
representation, as is the case now. The << family of operators should also
be removed for the inet type -- a host cannot "contain" another host. What
you probably wanted is `inet1 << network(inet2)'.
Does anyone see this differently? If not, can we agree on this
specification?
--
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Thus spake Peter Eisentraut
> There's apparently a lack of understanding of what exactly are these types
> are supposed to do. Therefore, instead of addressing each bug
> individually, let me first state what I reconstructed as the specification
> of these types, and then add what is currently wrong with it.
I have been browsing through the old messages on the topic. There was, in
fact some very good work defining the type before anyone actually started
to code. There was a surprising amount of controversy over the actual
definitions but I think in the end we hammered it out at least to the
point that everyone could work with it.
> * CIDR
>
> The cidr type stores the identity of an IP _network_. A network
> specification is of the form 'x.x.x.x/y'. The documentation states that if
> y is omitted then it is constructed from the old A, B, C class scheme. So
> be it. In a real world network, the bits (y+1)...32 have to be zero, but
> the cidr type does not currently enforce this. This has been the source of
> bugs in the past, and no doubt the source of some confusion as well. I
> propose that cidr _reject_ input of the form '127.0.0.5/16'. If you think
> about it, this is the same as int4 rejecting 3.5 as input.
There is also the option of accepting it but masking out the host bits
before storing it. That gives us automatic conversion if we store an
inet into a cidr if our intent is to store the network part.
What sort of bugs do you think it caused btw?
> * INET
>
> The inet type stores the identity of an IP _host_. A host specification is
> of the form 'x.x.x.x'. Optionally, the inet type also stores the identity
> of the network the host is in. E.g., '127.0.0.5/16' means the host
> 127.0.0.5 in the network 127.0/16.
That sounds right. We also allowed for hosts to be stored implicitely by
simply making the netmask /32.
> * Type equivalency
>
> This has also been a source of problems. I propose that cidr and inet are
> not made equivalent types at any level. No automatic casting either. A
> network and a host are not the same thing. To construct a cidr value from
> an inet value, you'd have to use some sort of (to be created) network()
> function, e.g., network('127.0.0.5/16') => '127.0/16'. IMO, there is no
> reasonable way to construct an inet value from a cidr value.
I'm not sure I understand why this is necessary. I can see not allowing
cidr ==> inet conversions but inet ==> cidr can be done as it is a matter
of dropping information - the host part.
> * Operators
>
> Because the types are equivalent, the operators have also been bunched
> together in confusing ways. I propose that ordering operators (>, +, <)
> between inet and cidr be eliminated, they do not make sense. The only
> useful operation between cidr and inet is the << ("contains") operator.
> Ordering withing cidr and inet be defined in terms of their bit
> representation, as is the case now. The << family of operators should also
> be removed for the inet type -- a host cannot "contain" another host. What
> you probably wanted is `inet1 << network(inet2)'.
Then let's define that as the meaning of "inet1 << inet2" i.e. define
the << operator between inet types as meaning "tell me if inet1 is in
the same network as inet2." In fact, if we define << as only allowed
between inet and cidr (or cidr and cidr?) then the implied cast will
deal with it if that cast causes the host bits to drop as suggested
above.
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Thus spake Peter Eisentraut
> network and a host are not the same thing. To construct a cidr value from
> an inet value, you'd have to use some sort of (to be created) network()
> function, e.g., network('127.0.0.5/16') => '127.0/16'. IMO, there is no
Oh, I forgot to mention:
darcy=> select network('127.1.2.3/24'::inet);
network
----------
127.1.2/24
(1 row)
There is also a host and netmask function and note:
darcy=> select host('127.1.2.3/24'::cidr);
ERROR: CIDR type has no host part
But I still see no reason why that can't be implicit if we assign the
"'127.1.2.3/24'::inet" value to a cidr. In other words let "select
('127.1.2.3/24'::inet)::cidr" give the same output.
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Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net> writes:
> There's apparently a lack of understanding of what exactly are these types
> are supposed to do. Therefore, instead of addressing each bug
> individually, let me first state what I reconstructed as the specification
> of these types, and then add what is currently wrong with it.
This sounds good offhand, but then I never paid a whole lot of attention
to the details originally. Did you go through the original inet/cidr
design discussions (the threads where Paul Vixie was participating)?
I don't believe Paul is subscribed here anymore, but I'd feel a lot
happier if you can contact him and get him to sign off on the clarified
design. Maybe this is what he had in mind all along, or maybe not.
regards, tom lane
PS: You do know who Paul Vixie is, I assume ;-). I can think of few
better-qualified experts in this domain...
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On Mon, 3 Jul 2000, Sevo Stille wrote:
>
> This would be proper behaviour for the cidr datatype, which describes a
> network. "select '10.0.0.1/27'::cidr='10.0.0.2/27'::cidr;" has to return
> true, as both define the same network, the mask putting the 1 vs. 2
> outside the comparison scope.
>
> On inet, I consider the above broken - going by the documentation,
> having a netmask on a inet datatype does not define a network address
> but rather supplies additional information on the cidr network the host
> as specified by the address is in. Accordingly, it should only truncate
> if the comparison casts to cidr.
OK. After some inspection in list's archives I found the following
statement (http://www.postgresql.org/mhonarc/pgsql-hackers/1998-07):
> It does not work that way. /24 is
> not a shorthand for specifying a netmask -- in CIDR, it's a "prefix
> length".
> That means "192.7.34.21/24" is either (a) a syntax error or
> (b) equivilent to "192.7.34/24".
Everybody seemed to agree with the above opinion at that time.
This is obviously _not_ the way that CIDR is handled at this moment.
"select '1.2.3.4/24'" returns "1.2.3/24" only because the _output_ routine
silently cuts host bits. Input routine stores it exactly as '1.2.3.4/24'.
Since IMHO it's wrong I prepared a patch (I'm sending it to pgsql-patch).
It fixes the CIDR input routine to zero host bits (ie beyond-prefix bits).
Please note that I didn't change the INET input routine.
Eventually I had to change a bit comparison functions.
To this moment they worked in a CIDR way (didn't compare host bits at all)
although they were used by both INET and CIDR.
Since CIDR is zero-padded now, whole 32 bits are compared by > = <
operators.
Subnet operators <<, >> are still the same, don't compare host bits.
> The big question is whether comparisons that only work on a cidr data
> type (contains/contained) or have a cidr type on one side can safely
> cast the inet type to cidr implicitly. For:
> "select '10.0.0.1/27'::inet = '10.0.0.2/27'::inet;" FALSE
> "select '10.0.0.1/27'::cidr = '10.0.0.2/27'::cidr;" TRUE
> "select '10.0.0.1/27'::cidr = '10.0.0.2/27'::inet;" FALSE
> "select '10.0.0.1/27'::cidr >> '10.0.0.2/27'::inet;" TRUE
OK.
> "select '10.0.0.1/27'::cidr << '10.0.0.2/27'::inet;" ERROR
Currently it's not an error... There is no way (and no reason) to
distinguish between INET and CIDR. Above example is exactly
equivalent to:
select '10.0.0.0/27'::inet << '10.0.0.2/27'::inet; -- FALSE
but:
select '10.0.0.0/27'::inet <<= '10.0.0.2/27'::inet; -- TRUE
> But we need to reach an agreement on the proper
> behaviour on greater/smaller comparisons. Should:
>
> "select '10.0.0.1/27'::inet > '10.0.0.2/27'::cidr;"
>
> be true or false? Casting to cidr prior to comparison would make it
> equivalent to "select '10.0.0.0/27'::cidr > '10.0.0.0/27'::cidr;", which
> is false, both networks being equal.
It should be (and is!) true... Since second argument is
really '10.0.0.0/27'.
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1. Fixed obvious bug with strcpy() called on text type in network.c
2. Fixed CIDR input routine to cut 'host' bits in inet_net_pton.c
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On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote:
> I'm not sure I understand why this is necessary. I can see not allowing
> cidr ==> inet conversions but inet ==> cidr can be done as it is a matter
> of dropping information - the host part.
Automatic casts should not lose information. How would you feel if floats
were automatically rounded when you store them into int fields? I think
this is an important principle in any type system.
> Then let's define that as the meaning of "inet1 << inet2" i.e. define
> the << operator between inet types as meaning "tell me if inet1 is in
> the same network as inet2."
Again, let the user say what he wants: inet1 << network(inet2).
Also note that "is inet1 in the same network as inet2" is different from
"is inet1 contained in the network of inet2" (which is what it does now).
The operator you defined is symmetric (if inet1 is in the same network as
inet2, then inet2 is also in the same network as inet1), whereas the << is
antisymmetric. In fact, AFAICT, the operator you defined doesn't exist
yet, although it perhaps should.
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Jakub Bartosz Bielecki wrote:
> > "select '10.0.0.1/27'::cidr << '10.0.0.2/27'::inet;" ERROR
>
> Currently it's not an error... There is no way (and no reason) to
> distinguish between INET and CIDR.
Yes, there is. CIDR is defined as the network 10.0.0.1 & /27, while INET
is defined as host 10.0.0.1 within network 10.0.0.1 & /27. You can do
almost every network and host calculation both in CIDR and INET, but
you need implicit knowledge for it. Two columns are necessary to define
a host and its network in CIDR, and a network cannot be specified
without a host using INET - except for ugly in-band hacks like using
10.0.0.0/27 for the network which would prevent you from specifying a
base address.
> Above example is exactly
> equivalent to:
> select '10.0.0.0/27'::inet << '10.0.0.2/27'::inet; -- FALSE
Nope. If the right hand side is automatically propagated to a network,
it is true. If not, the above IMHO should better raise an error, as a
host can never contain a host.
> but:
> select '10.0.0.0/27'::inet <<= '10.0.0.2/27'::inet; -- TRUE
Well, you might argue that a host could contain-or-equal a host, but as
only the equals part could ever be true, that is a redundant operator
without any meaning beyond equals, and accordingly it should not be
valid for that case.
> > But we need to reach an agreement on the proper
> > behaviour on greater/smaller comparisons. Should:
> >
> > "select '10.0.0.1/27'::inet > '10.0.0.2/27'::cidr;"
> >
> > be true or false? Casting to cidr prior to comparison would make it
> > equivalent to "select '10.0.0.0/27'::cidr > '10.0.0.0/27'::cidr;", which
> > is false, both networks being equal.
>
> It should be (and is!) true... Since second argument is
> really '10.0.0.0/27'.
Yes, but that does not make it any truer. CIDR 10.0.0.0/27 is
definitively not 10.0.0.0 but [10.0.0.0 .. 10.0.0.31]. A CIDR address is
never synonymous to a plain host address. You'll see the problem if you
try to calculate the inverse - any zeroed CIDR address in the entire
range from 10.0/8 to 10.0.0.0/32 would mask to 10.0.0.0. Accordingly,
there is no simple answer to a "host bigger/smaller than network"
question. For many applications, it may be useful to define that to mean
that the host is smaller than the network bottom address respectively
bigger than the top address, but any of the other possible views would
be perfectly legal as well.
Sevo
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Thus spake eisentrp@csis.gvsu.edu
> On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote:
> > I'm not sure I understand why this is necessary. I can see not allowing
> > cidr ==> inet conversions but inet ==> cidr can be done as it is a matter
> > of dropping information - the host part.
>
> Automatic casts should not lose information. How would you feel if floats
> were automatically rounded when you store them into int fields? I think
> this is an important principle in any type system.
If it was defined well I would have no problem with it.
> > Then let's define that as the meaning of "inet1 << inet2" i.e. define
> > the << operator between inet types as meaning "tell me if inet1 is in
> > the same network as inet2."
>
> Again, let the user say what he wants: inet1 << network(inet2).
I think that's what I meant. I'm just saying that inet::cidr should be
the same as network(inet). Allowing that cast makes a lot of operations
work intuitively.
> Also note that "is inet1 in the same network as inet2" is different from
> "is inet1 contained in the network of inet2" (which is what it does now).
Hmm. It is a subtle difference and I did miss it.
> The operator you defined is symmetric (if inet1 is in the same network as
> inet2, then inet2 is also in the same network as inet1), whereas the << is
> antisymmetric. In fact, AFAICT, the operator you defined doesn't exist
> yet, although it perhaps should.
I guess what I was really getting at was this.
host OP cidr
where inet would cast to host on one side and cidr on the other. What
we have now is
cidr OP cidr
with both sides casting to cidr. Of course there is no such thing as a host
type so I don't know how we would cast such a thing.
--
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On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Sevo Stille wrote:
>
> > > "select '10.0.0.1/27'::cidr << '10.0.0.2/27'::inet;" ERROR
> >
> > Currently it's not an error... There is no way (and no reason) to
> > distinguish between INET and CIDR.
>
> Yes, there is. CIDR is defined as the network 10.0.0.1 & /27, while INET
> is defined as host 10.0.0.1 within network 10.0.0.1 & /27. You can do
> almost every network and host calculation both in CIDR and INET, but
> you need implicit knowledge for it.
I was talking about *current* implementation of INET/CIDR (which IMHO
is very ill).
There is INET for users that want simply to store IP's and don't care
about all the technical jargon.
There is CIDR for advanced users who want to store network data.
Currently these 2 types are handled by 1 implementation, moreover despite
INET netmask and CIDR prefix-length are something completely different,
both are stored in the same field of inet structure (yuck).
At the moment it works fine. But that's only a hack.
I guess the purpose was to prevent duplication of code... Blah...
> > select '10.0.0.0/27'::inet << '10.0.0.2/27'::inet; -- FALSE
>
> Nope. If the right hand side is automatically propagated to a network,
> it is true. If not, the above IMHO should better raise an error, as a
> host can never contain a host.
>
> > select '10.0.0.0/27'::inet <<= '10.0.0.2/27'::inet; -- TRUE
>
> Well, you might argue that a host could contain-or-equal a host, but as
> only the equals part could ever be true, that is a redundant operator
> without any meaning beyond equals, and accordingly it should not be
> valid for that case.
>
> > > "select '10.0.0.1/27'::inet > '10.0.0.2/27'::cidr;"
> > It should be (and is!) true... Since second argument is
> > really '10.0.0.0/27'.
>
> Yes, but that does not make it any truer. CIDR 10.0.0.0/27 is
> definitively not 10.0.0.0 but [10.0.0.0 .. 10.0.0.31].
Same as above... You are perfectly right.
Everything works until user starts messing with _both_ INET and CIDR
at the same time.
The possible solution is:
- inhibit cidr-to-inet cast (and maybe also inet-to-cidr, because
it would throw away netmask),
- CIDR operators: > = < << >>
- INET operators: > = < (and why not & | if it would be useful???)
functions: cidr network(inet); // '10.0.0.0/27'
text host(inet); // '10.0.0.1'
int masklen(inet); // 27
- write an usable manual.
Comments?
I *might* work on it if I find some spare time. But it's unlikely :(
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D'Arcy J.M. Cain writes:
> > Automatic casts should not lose information. How would you feel if floats
> > were automatically rounded when you store them into int fields? I think
> > this is an important principle in any type system.
>
> If it was defined well I would have no problem with it.
That is certainly not how type systems operate anywhere.
> I guess what I was really getting at was this.
>
> host OP cidr
>
> where inet would cast to host on one side and cidr on the other. What
> we have now is
>
> cidr OP cidr
>
> with both sides casting to cidr. Of course there is no such thing as a host
> type so I don't know how we would cast such a thing.
I think that while the implicit casting could sometimes be convenient,
it's also a source of confusion. Consider the statement
select '10.0.0.3'::cidr < '10.0.0.2'::inet; => f
This cannot possibly make sense on closer inspection. Firstly, it's
semantic nonsense, you cannot order a network and a host. Secondly, it's
also wrong. According to the documentation, the '10.0.0.3'::cidr should be
converted to '10/8' internally. Then one of two things could have happened
here: 1) cidr was implicitly converted to inet and '10.0.0.3' is taken to
be a host, which is completely wrong. Or 2) inet was converted to cidr.
But then we're looking at '10/8' < '10.0.0.2/32', which should be true.
See also
select '10.0.0.2'::cidr = '10.0.0.2'::inet; => t
which is wrong for similar reasons.
Then let's look at the << family of operators.
select '10.0.0.2'::cidr >> '10.0.0.2'::inet; => f
Again, there are two ways this could currently be resolved:
'10/8'::cidr >> '10.0.0.2/32'::cidr which does return true
or
'10.0.0.2'::inet >> '10.0.0.2'::inet
which doesn't make any sense.
On closer inspection, the inet << cidr case is completely misbehaving: