diff --git a/doc/TODO.detail/tablespaces b/doc/TODO.detail/tablespaces
index 425eb07102c9d4421bbb492537017dbe46008515..ed7f603d5286d88752bb22f2b8faedcfa34fd58c 100644
--- a/doc/TODO.detail/tablespaces
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@@ -2,7 +2,7 @@ From pgsql-hackers-owner+M174@hub.org Sun Mar 12 22:31:11 2000
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@@ -3443,7 +3443,7 @@ From pgsql-hackers-owner+M3451@hub.org Thu Jun 15 20:01:00 2000
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@@ -3560,7 +3560,7 @@ From pgsql-hackers-owner+M3453@hub.org Thu Jun 15 21:01:01 2000
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@@ -5715,7 +5715,7 @@ From pgsql-hackers-owner+M3573@hub.org Mon Jun 19 01:31:02 2000
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@@ -5798,7 +5798,7 @@ From pgsql-hackers-owner+M3574@hub.org Mon Jun 19 01:31:01 2000
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@@ -6113,7 +6113,7 @@ From pgsql-hackers-owner+M3615@hub.org Tue Jun 20 12:55:05 2000
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@@ -6480,7 +6480,7 @@ From pgsql-hackers-owner+M3636@hub.org Wed Jun 21 01:31:12 2000
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@@ -6538,7 +6538,7 @@ From dhogaza@pacifier.com Wed Jun 21 01:31:03 2000
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@@ -6697,7 +6697,7 @@ From pgsql-hackers-owner+M3641@hub.org Wed Jun 21 02:31:02 2000
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@@ -6765,7 +6765,7 @@ From pgsql-hackers-owner+M3644@hub.org Wed Jun 21 02:31:03 2000
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@@ -6822,7 +6822,7 @@ From pgsql-hackers-owner+M3648@hub.org Wed Jun 21 09:01:01 2000
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@@ -8105,7 +8105,7 @@ From pgsql-hackers-owner+M3711@hub.org Thu Jun 22 01:01:06 2000
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@@ -8214,7 +8214,7 @@ From pgsql-hackers-owner+M3720@hub.org Thu Jun 22 02:01:02 2000
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Andreas
+From pgsql-hackers-owner+M3496@hub.org Fri Jun 16 15:55:14 2000
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+To: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
+Subject: [HACKERS] OK, OK, Hiroshi's right: use a seperately-generated filename
+Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 13:51:37 -0400
+Message-ID: <7942.961177897@sss.pgh.pa.us>
+From: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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+
+After further thought I think there's a lot of merit in Hiroshi's
+opinion that physical file names should not be tied to relation OID.
+If we use a separately generated value for the file name, we can
+solve a lot of problems pretty nicely by means of "table versioning".
+
+For example: VACUUM can't compact indexes at the moment, and what it
+does do (scan the index and delete unused entries) is really slow.
+The right thing to do is for it to generate an all-new index file,
+but how do we do that without creating a risk of leaving the index
+corrupted if we crash partway through? The answer is to build the
+new index in a new physical file. But how do we install the new
+file as the real index atomically, when it might span multiple
+segments? If the physical file name is decoupled from the relation's
+name *and* OID then there is no problem: the atomic event that makes
+the new file(s) the real table contents is the commit of the new
+pg_class row with the new value for the physical filename.
+
+Aside from possible improvements in VACUUM, this would let us do a
+robust implementation of CLUSTER, and we could do the "really change
+the table" variant of ALTER TABLE DROP COLUMN the same way if anyone
+wants to do it.
+
+The only cost is that we need an additional column in pg_class to
+hold the physical file name. That's not so bad, especially when
+you remember that we'd surely need to add something to pg_class for
+tablespace support anyway.
+
+If we bite that bullet, then we could also do something to satisfy
+Bruce about having legible file names ;-). The column in pg_class
+could perfectly well be a string, not a pure number, and that means
+that we can throw in the relname (truncated to fit of course). So
+the thing would act a lot like the original-relname-plus-OID variant
+that's been discussed so far. (Original relname because ALTER TABLE
+RENAME would *not* change the physical file name. But we could
+think about a form of VACUUM that creates a whole new table by
+versioning, and that would presumably bring the physical name back
+in sync with the logical relname.)
+
+Here is a sketch of a concrete proposal. I see no need to have
+separate pg_class columns for tablespace and physical relname;
+instead, I suggest there be a column of type NAME that is the
+file pathname (relative to the database directory). Further,
+instead of the existing convention of appending .N to the base
+file name to make extension segment names, I propose that we
+always have a segment number in the physical file name, and that
+the pg_class entry be required to contain a "%d" somewhere that
+indicates where. The actual filename is manufactured by
+ sprintf(tempbuf, value_from_pg_class_column, segment_number);
+
+As an example, the arrangement I was suggesting earlier today
+about segments in different subdirectories of a tablespace
+could be implemented by assigning physical filenames like
+
+ tablespace/%d/12345_relname
+
+where the 12345 is a value generated separately from the table's OID.
+(We would still use the OID counter to produce these numbers, and
+in fact there's no reason not to use the table's OID as the initial
+unique ID for the physical filename. The point is just that the
+physical filename doesn't have to remain forever equal to the
+relation's OID.)
+
+If we use type NAME for this string then the tablespace part of the path
+would have to be kept to no more than ~ 15 characters, but that seems
+workable enough. (Anybody who really didn't like that could recompile
+with larger NAMEDATALEN. Doesn't seem worth inventing a separate type.)
+
+As Hiroshi pointed out, one of the best aspects of this approach
+is that the physical table layout policy doesn't have to be hard-wired
+into low-level file access routines. The low-level routines don't
+need to know much of anything about the format of the pathname,
+they just stuff in the right segment number and use the name. The
+layout policy need only be known to one single routine that generates
+the strings that go into pg_class. So it'd be really easy to change.
+
+One thing we'd have to work out is that the critical system tables
+(eg, pg_class itself, as well as its indexes) would have to have
+predictable physical names. Otherwise there's no way for a new
+backend to bootstrap itself up ... it can't very well read pg_class
+to find out where pg_class is. A brute-force solution is to forbid
+reversioning of the critical tables, but I suspect we can find a
+less restrictive answer.
+
+This seems like it'd satisfy all the concerns that have been raised.
+Comments?
+
+ regards, tom lane
+
+From pgsql-hackers-owner+M3524@hub.org Fri Jun 16 22:30:59 2000
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+To: Chris Bitmead <chris@bitmead.com>
+cc: pgsql-hackers@postgreSQL.org
+Subject: Re: [HACKERS] OK, OK, Hiroshi's right: use a seperately-generated filename
+In-reply-to: <394ACB42.C87C59B8@bitmead.com>
+References: <7942.961177897@sss.pgh.pa.us> <394ACB42.C87C59B8@bitmead.com>
+Comments: In-reply-to Chris Bitmead <chris@bitmead.com>
+ message dated "Sat, 17 Jun 2000 10:50:10 +1000"
+Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:12:29 -0400
+Message-ID: <10206.961204349@sss.pgh.pa.us>
+From: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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+
+Chris Bitmead <chris@bitmead.com> writes:
+> At least on UNIX, couldn't you use a hard-link and change the name in
+> pg_class immediately? Let the brain-dead operating systems use the
+> vacuum method.
+
+Hmm ... maybe, but it doesn't seem worth the portability headache to
+me. We do have an NT port that we don't want to break, and I don't
+think RENAME TABLE is worth the trouble of testing/supporting two
+implementations.
+
+Even on Unix, aren't there filesystems that don't do hard links?
+Not that I'd recommend running Postgres on such a volume, but...
+
+ regards, tom lane
+
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+From: "Hiroshi Inoue" <Inoue@tpf.co.jp>
+To: "Tom Lane" <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
+Cc: <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
+Subject: RE: [HACKERS] OK, OK, Hiroshi's right: use a seperately-generated filename
+Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 18:38:53 +0900
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+> -----Original Message-----
+> From: pgsql-hackers-owner@hub.org [mailto:pgsql-hackers-owner@hub.org]On
+> Behalf Of Tom Lane
+>
+> After further thought I think there's a lot of merit in Hiroshi's
+> opinion that physical file names should not be tied to relation OID.
+> If we use a separately generated value for the file name, we can
+> solve a lot of problems pretty nicely by means of "table versioning".
+>
+> For example: VACUUM can't compact indexes at the moment, and what it
+> does do (scan the index and delete unused entries) is really slow.
+> The right thing to do is for it to generate an all-new index file,
+> but how do we do that without creating a risk of leaving the index
+> corrupted if we crash partway through? The answer is to build the
+> new index in a new physical file. But how do we install the new
+> file as the real index atomically, when it might span multiple
+> segments? If the physical file name is decoupled from the relation's
+> name *and* OID then there is no problem: the atomic event that makes
+> the new file(s) the real table contents is the commit of the new
+> pg_class row with the new value for the physical filename.
+>
+> Aside from possible improvements in VACUUM, this would let us do a
+> robust implementation of CLUSTER, and we could do the "really change
+> the table" variant of ALTER TABLE DROP COLUMN the same way if anyone
+> wants to do it.
+>
+
+Yes,I've wondered how do we implement column_is_really_dropped
+ALTER TABLE DROP COLUMN feature without this kind of mechanism.
+
+> The only cost is that we need an additional column in pg_class to
+> hold the physical file name. That's not so bad, especially when
+> you remember that we'd surely need to add something to pg_class for
+> tablespace support anyway.
+>
+> If we bite that bullet, then we could also do something to satisfy
+> Bruce about having legible file names ;-). The column in pg_class
+> could perfectly well be a string, not a pure number, and that means
+> that we can throw in the relname (truncated to fit of course). So
+> the thing would act a lot like the original-relname-plus-OID variant
+> that's been discussed so far. (Original relname because ALTER TABLE
+> RENAME would *not* change the physical file name. But we could
+> think about a form of VACUUM that creates a whole new table by
+> versioning, and that would presumably bring the physical name back
+> in sync with the logical relname.)
+>
+> As Hiroshi pointed out, one of the best aspects of this approach
+> is that the physical table layout policy doesn't have to be hard-wired
+> into low-level file access routines. The low-level routines don't
+> need to know much of anything about the format of the pathname,
+> they just stuff in the right segment number and use the name. The
+> layout policy need only be known to one single routine that generates
+> the strings that go into pg_class. So it'd be really easy to change.
+>
+
+Ross's approach is fundamentally same though he is using relname+OID
+naming rule. I've said his trial is most practical one.
+
+> One thing we'd have to work out is that the critical system tables
+> (eg, pg_class itself, as well as its indexes) would have to have
+> predictable physical names.
+
+The only limitation of the relation filename is the uniqueness.
+So it doesn't introduce any inconsistency that system tables
+have fixed name.
+As for system relations it wouldn't be so bad because CLUSTER/
+ALTER TABLE DROP COLUMN ... would be unnecessary(maybe).
+But as for system indexes,it is preferable that VACUUM/REINDEX
+could rebuild them safely. System indexes never shrink currently.
+
+Regards.
+
+Hiroshi Inoue
+Inoue@tpf.co.jp
+
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+Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 15:01:53 +0200 (CEST)
+From: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
+To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
+cc: pgsql-hackers@postgreSQL.org
+Subject: Re: [HACKERS] OK, OK, Hiroshi's right: use a seperately-generated
+ filename
+In-Reply-To: <7942.961177897@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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+Tom Lane writes:
+
+> tablespace/%d/12345_relname
+
+Throwing table spaces and relation names into one pot doesn't excite me
+very much. For example, before long people will want to
+
+* Query what tables are in what space (without using string operations)
+Consider for example creating a new table and choosing where to put it.
+
+* Rename table spaces
+
+* Assign attributes of some sort to table spaces (permissions, etc.)
+
+* Use table space names with more than 15 characters. :)
+
+Somehow table spaces need to be catalogued. You could still make the
+physical file name 'tablespaceoid/rest' without actually having to look up
+anything, although that depends on your symlink idea which is still under
+discussion.
+
+Then, why are all nth segments of tables in one directory in that
+proposal?
+
+Also, you said before that an old relname (after rename) is worse than
+none at all. I couldn't agree more.
+
+Why not use OID.[SEGMENT.]VERSION for the physical relname (different
+order possible)? That way you at least have some guaranteed correspondence
+between files and tables. Version could probably be an INT2, so you save
+some space.
+
+
+--
+Peter Eisentraut Sernanders väg 10:115
+peter_e@gmx.net 75262 Uppsala
+http://yi.org/peter-e/ Sweden
+
+
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+To: "Hiroshi Inoue" <Inoue@tpf.co.jp>
+cc: pgsql-hackers@postgreSQL.org
+Subject: Re: [HACKERS] OK, OK, Hiroshi's right: use a seperately-generated filename
+In-reply-to: <EKEJJICOHDIEMGPNIFIJIEAKCCAA.Inoue@tpf.co.jp>
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+Comments: In-reply-to "Hiroshi Inoue" <Inoue@tpf.co.jp>
+ message dated "Sat, 17 Jun 2000 18:38:53 +0900"
+Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 12:24:56 -0400
+Message-ID: <18936.961259096@sss.pgh.pa.us>
+From: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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+"Hiroshi Inoue" <Inoue@tpf.co.jp> writes:
+>> One thing we'd have to work out is that the critical system tables
+>> (eg, pg_class itself, as well as its indexes) would have to have
+>> predictable physical names.
+
+> The only limitation of the relation filename is the uniqueness.
+> So it doesn't introduce any inconsistency that system tables
+> have fixed name.
+> As for system relations it wouldn't be so bad because CLUSTER/
+> ALTER TABLE DROP COLUMN ... would be unnecessary(maybe).
+> But as for system indexes,it is preferable that VACUUM/REINDEX
+> could rebuild them safely. System indexes never shrink currently.
+
+Right, it's the index-shrinking business that has me worried.
+Most of the other reasons for swapping in a new file don't apply
+to system tables, but that one does.
+
+One possibility is to say that system *tables* can't be reversioned
+(at least not the critical ones) but system *indexes* can be.
+Then we'd have to use your ignore-system-indexes stuff during backend
+startup, until we'd found out where the indexes are. Might be too big
+a time penalty however... not sure. Shared cache inval of a system
+index could be a little tricky too; I don't think the catcache routines
+are prepared to fall back to non-index scan are they?
+
+On the whole it might be better to cheat by using a side data structure
+like the pg_internal.init file, that a backend could consult to find out
+where the indexes are now.
+
+ regards, tom lane
+
+From pgsql-hackers-owner+M3553@hub.org Sun Jun 18 18:31:03 2000
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+From: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
+To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
+cc: PostgreSQL Development <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
+Subject: Re: [HACKERS] OK, OK, Hiroshi's right: use a seperately-generated
+ filename
+In-Reply-To: <19045.961260445@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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+Tom Lane writes:
+
+> I don't think it's a good idea to have to consult pg_tablespace to find
+> out where a table actually is --- I think the pathname (or smgr access
+> token as Ross would call it ;-)) ought to be determinable from just the
+> pg_class entry.
+
+That's why I suggested the table space oid. That would be readily
+available from pg_class.
+
+
+> Tablespaces can have logical names stored in pg_tablespace; they just
+> can't contribute more than a dozen or so characters to file pathnames
+> under the implementation I'm proposing. That doesn't seem too
+> unreasonable; the pathname part can be some sort of abbreviated name.
+
+Since the abbreviated name is really only used internally it might as well
+be the oid. Otherwise you create a weird functional dependency like the
+pg_shadow.usesysid field that's just an extra layer of maintenance.
+
+
+> this implementation mechanism will support either policy choice ---
+> original relname in the filename, or just a numeric ID for the
+> filename
+
+But when you look at a file name `12345_accounts_recei' you know neither
+
+* whether the table name was really `accounts_recei' or whether the name
+was truncated
+
+* whether the table still has that name, whatever it was
+
+* what table this is at all
+
+So in the aggregate you really know less than nothing. :-)
+
+
+> > Why not use OID.[SEGMENT.]VERSION for the physical relname (different
+> > order possible)?
+>
+> Doesn't give you a manageable way to split segments across different
+> disks.
+
+Okay, so maybe ${base}/TABLESPACEOID/SEGMENT/RELOID.VERSION.
+
+This doesn't need any catalog lookup outside of pg_class, yet it's still
+easy to resolve to human-readable names by simple admin tools (SELECT *
+FROM pg_foo WHERE oid = xxx). VERSION would be unique within a conceptual
+relation, so you could even see how many times the relation was altered in
+major ways (kind of).
+
+
+--
+Peter Eisentraut Sernanders väg 10:115
+peter_e@gmx.net 75262 Uppsala
+http://yi.org/peter-e/ Sweden
+
+
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+Subject: RE: [HACKERS] OK, OK, Hiroshi's right: use a seperately-generated filename
+Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:24:56 +0900
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+> -----Original Message-----
+> From: pgsql-hackers-owner@hub.org [mailto:pgsql-hackers-owner@hub.org]On
+> Behalf Of Chris Bitmead
+>
+> Tom Lane wrote:
+>
+> > > Also, you said before that an old relname (after rename) is worse than
+> > > none at all. I couldn't agree more.
+> >
+> > I'm not the one who wants relnames in the physical names ;-). However,
+> > this implementation mechanism will support either policy choice ---
+> > original relname in the filename, or just a numeric ID for the filename
+> > --- and that seems like a good sign to me.
+> >
+> > > Why not use OID.[SEGMENT.]VERSION for the physical relname (different
+> > > order possible)?
+>
+> Unless VERSION is globally unique like an oid is, having RELNAME.VERSION
+> would be a problem if you created a table with the same name as a
+> recently renamed table.
+>
+
+In my proposal(relname+unique-id),the unique-id is globally unique
+and relname is only for dba's convenience. I've said many times that
+we should be free from the rule of file naming as far as possible.
+I myself don't mind the name of relation files except that they should
+be globally unique. I had to propose my opinion for file naming
+because people have been so enthusiastic about globally_not_unique
+file naming.
+
+Regards.
+
+Hiroshi Inoue
+Inoue@tpf.co.jp
+
+
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+Tom Lane wrote:
+ So
+> the thing would act a lot like the original-relname-plus-OID variant
+> that's been discussed so far. (Original relname because ALTER TABLE
+> RENAME would *not* change the physical file name. But we could
+> think about a form of VACUUM that creates a whole new table by
+> versioning, and that would presumably bring the physical name back
+> in sync with the logical relname.)
+
+At least on UNIX, couldn't you use a hard-link and change the name in
+pg_class immediately? Let the brain-dead operating systems use the
+vacuum method.
+
+From pgsql-hackers-owner+M3576@hub.org Mon Jun 19 01:58:35 2000
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+From: "Hiroshi Inoue" <Inoue@tpf.co.jp>
+To: "Peter Eisentraut" <peter_e@gmx.net>
+Cc: "PostgreSQL Development" <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>,
+ "Tom Lane" <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
+Subject: RE: [HACKERS] OK, OK, Hiroshi's right: use a seperately-generatedfilename
+Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 13:52:34 +0900
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+> -----Original Message-----
+> From: pgsql-hackers-owner@hub.org [mailto:pgsql-hackers-owner@hub.org]On
+> Behalf Of Peter Eisentraut
+>
+> Tom Lane writes:
+>
+> > I don't think it's a good idea to have to consult pg_tablespace to find
+> > out where a table actually is --- I think the pathname (or smgr access
+> > token as Ross would call it ;-)) ought to be determinable from just the
+> > pg_class entry.
+>
+> That's why I suggested the table space oid. That would be readily
+> available from pg_class.
+>
+
+It seems to me that the following 1)2) has always been mixed up.
+IMHO,they should be distinguished clearly.
+
+1) Where the table is stored
+ Currently PostgreSQL relies on relname -> filename mapping
+ rule to access *existent* relations and doesn't have this
+ information in its database. Our(Tom,Ross,me) proposal is to
+ keep the information(token) in pg_class and provide a standard
+ transactional control mechanism for the change of table file
+ allocation. By doing it we would be able to be free from table
+ allocation(naming) rule.
+ Isn't it a kind of thing why we haven't had it from the first ?
+
+2) Where to store the table
+ Yes,TABLE(DATA)SPACE should encapsulate this concept.
+
+I want the decision about 1) first. Ross has already tried it without
+2).
+
+Comments ?
+
+As for 2) every one seems to have each opinion and the discussion
+has always been divergent. Please don't discard 1) together.
+
+Regards.
+
+Hiroshi Inoue
+Inoue@tpf.co.jp
+
+
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+From: Zeugswetter Andreas SB <ZeugswetterA@wien.spardat.at>
+To: "'Tom Lane'" <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>, Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>
+Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
+Subject: AW: [HACKERS] OK, OK, Hiroshi's right: use a seperately-generated
+ filename
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+
+> It's better than *all* segments of tables in one directory, which is
+> what you get if the segment number is just a component of a flat file
+> name. We have to have a better answer than that for people who need
+> to cope with tables bigger than a disk. Perhaps someone can
+> think of a
+> better answer than subdirectory-per-segment-number, but I think that
+> will work well enough; and it doesn't add any complexity for file
+> access.
+
+I do not see this connection between a filesystem and a disk ?
+Modern systems have the ability to join more than one disk into
+one filesystem.
+
+Also if we think about separating large tables into smaller parts
+we imho want something where the optimizer has knowledge
+what data it finds in what part of the table.
+
+Andreas
+